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	<title>Comments on: Mapping Out The Space: &#8220;Zittrainism&#8221; and More</title>
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		<title>By: TV</title>
		<link>http://brosephstalin.com/2009/12/08/mapping-out-the-space-zittrainism-and-more/#comment-163</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jul 2010 03:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Listening to the new+related Berkman podcast, a couple of thoughts struck me:

1. On the classification of perspectives on the Internet: with respect, it seems that the population sample from which you&#039;re attempting to derive this classification system is heavily skewed in the direction of &quot;application-level&quot; Internet developers and &quot;arms-length&quot; Internet analysts and scholars (lawyers, professors, journalists, etc.). Although one can learn a great deal about the Internet in the course of engaging in all of these activities (and some distance may be important for the appearance if not the achievement of &quot;objectivity&quot;), I suspect that a broader range of perspectives might be revealed if your population sample included individuals who are more directly engaged in the development/deployment and operation of Internet protocols and infrastructure, i.e., the lower-level technical constructs that make the application-level constructs (technically) possible.

2. On the (podcast) claim that there is no usefully comparable phenomenon or guiding analogy for understanding the Internet (and DW&#039;s corresponding claim that non-recognition of such parallels makes one an &quot;exceptionalist&quot;): When one peers under the hood, the Internet actually looks quite a lot (or perhaps exactly) like a new kind of &quot;liquidity mechanism,&quot; i.e., a set of technologies, formal institutions, incentive mechanisms, and habitual practices that facilitate the dynamic, demand-driven exchange of packetizable things (information, communications, &quot;content&quot;, etc., etc.) between an ever-expanding universe of exchanging parties. On this view, the clear parallel is the only other liquidity mechanism (a.k.a. &quot;medium of exchange&quot;) that has been discovered and very widely adopted in human history to date, i.e., the technology &quot;money,&quot; along with the institutions that coordinate the (hopefully, sustainable) quantity and flow of monetary instruments, and secondarily all of the innumerable &quot;applications&quot; that the monetary technology-based economy makes possible. Under the hood, core Internet technologies look like an amazingly apt liquidity mechanism for sustaining an economy that is dominated by nonrival/abundant goods -- much as one might observe that monetary technologies were quite well-adopted (and hence very widely adopted) to mediate exchanges of value when the economy was dominated by physical/scarce/rival goods. 

Granted, most economists who think about money a lot seem to think that it&#039;s &quot;medium of exchange&quot; function is unique (for now) so perhaps this perspective represents a kind of second-order Internet exceptionalism... albeit one which is empirically grounded and provides a variety of postdictive and predictive insights...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Listening to the new+related Berkman podcast, a couple of thoughts struck me:</p>
<p>1. On the classification of perspectives on the Internet: with respect, it seems that the population sample from which you&#8217;re attempting to derive this classification system is heavily skewed in the direction of &#8220;application-level&#8221; Internet developers and &#8220;arms-length&#8221; Internet analysts and scholars (lawyers, professors, journalists, etc.). Although one can learn a great deal about the Internet in the course of engaging in all of these activities (and some distance may be important for the appearance if not the achievement of &#8220;objectivity&#8221;), I suspect that a broader range of perspectives might be revealed if your population sample included individuals who are more directly engaged in the development/deployment and operation of Internet protocols and infrastructure, i.e., the lower-level technical constructs that make the application-level constructs (technically) possible.</p>
<p>2. On the (podcast) claim that there is no usefully comparable phenomenon or guiding analogy for understanding the Internet (and DW&#8217;s corresponding claim that non-recognition of such parallels makes one an &#8220;exceptionalist&#8221;): When one peers under the hood, the Internet actually looks quite a lot (or perhaps exactly) like a new kind of &#8220;liquidity mechanism,&#8221; i.e., a set of technologies, formal institutions, incentive mechanisms, and habitual practices that facilitate the dynamic, demand-driven exchange of packetizable things (information, communications, &#8220;content&#8221;, etc., etc.) between an ever-expanding universe of exchanging parties. On this view, the clear parallel is the only other liquidity mechanism (a.k.a. &#8220;medium of exchange&#8221;) that has been discovered and very widely adopted in human history to date, i.e., the technology &#8220;money,&#8221; along with the institutions that coordinate the (hopefully, sustainable) quantity and flow of monetary instruments, and secondarily all of the innumerable &#8220;applications&#8221; that the monetary technology-based economy makes possible. Under the hood, core Internet technologies look like an amazingly apt liquidity mechanism for sustaining an economy that is dominated by nonrival/abundant goods &#8212; much as one might observe that monetary technologies were quite well-adopted (and hence very widely adopted) to mediate exchanges of value when the economy was dominated by physical/scarce/rival goods. </p>
<p>Granted, most economists who think about money a lot seem to think that it&#8217;s &#8220;medium of exchange&#8221; function is unique (for now) so perhaps this perspective represents a kind of second-order Internet exceptionalism&#8230; albeit one which is empirically grounded and provides a variety of postdictive and predictive insights&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Graham</title>
		<link>http://brosephstalin.com/2009/12/08/mapping-out-the-space-zittrainism-and-more/#comment-124</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Graham]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 19:30:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Very cool, and I&#039;m already thinking in 2x2&#039;s for my next thought. My first reaction is that I might want to chart &quot;descriptive&quot; and &quot;prescriptive.&quot; I like the Internet vs. internet distinction. 

Wondering whether &quot;cybertarianism&quot; is really agnostic about the outcomes. Do you mean it in Rebecca&#039;s sense or something related? Is this from the perspective of regulators or students?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very cool, and I&#8217;m already thinking in 2&#215;2&#8242;s for my next thought. My first reaction is that I might want to chart &#8220;descriptive&#8221; and &#8220;prescriptive.&#8221; I like the Internet vs. internet distinction. </p>
<p>Wondering whether &#8220;cybertarianism&#8221; is really agnostic about the outcomes. Do you mean it in Rebecca&#8217;s sense or something related? Is this from the perspective of regulators or students?</p>
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